[Meego-community] This mailing list A.K.A. wild wild west

[Dave Neary]

Hi Michael,

Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> This is the same negative attitude MeeGo has been breed upon. Every time
> a new idea is brought forth, it's met with immediate decent and
> dismissed just as quickly (ie. the target audience, forum, and website
> proposals - to name a few).

That depends on how the ideas are brought forth. You may have had more
success if you phrased your ideas as suggestions, or a basis for
discussion, rather than edicts to be implemented by the powers that be.

In this case, your strong "I'm right, you're wrong" initial message set
the scene for a confrontation. Anyone replying to you was inevitably
going to be "knocking your ideas", opening the door for you to reply to
their message & thus end up writing half the mails in the thread.

Specifically, I'm thinking of the following phrases (my paraphrasals in
brackets are what I understood when reading):

"This mailing list A.K.A. wild wild west" (you're doing it wrong!)

"Is anyone else annoyed with the chaos that is the MeeGo mailing list?
How about some rules get instituted? Mailing list moderators?" (How come
I'm the only one who realises that we need rules and moderators - are
you all idiots?)

"I'm not trying to set up some sort of firing squad but I'd like to see
some changes made." (I am right. Bow down to me and do as I say)

"Also, please lose the prefixes." (what idiot came up with *that* idea?
Sheesh!)

> I don't see MeeGo becoming anything worth engaging into if everyone's
> mind is already made up. Have a good time ladies and gents; I don't see
> a need for me to be here. I'm sure no one will miss me.

With an attitude like the one you've shown in this thread, I tend to agree.

For those who missed my recent reference in my blog:
http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2010/03/05/stfu-2/, I heartily recommend
reading Dan Spalding's "open letter to men in the movement".

FWIW, I liked your referral to existing policies - and if you had
limited yourself to stating that you personally prefer no top-posting,
no labels in the subjects, etc, and referred to these guidelines, your
message would have been well received.

Cheers,
Dave.

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