[MeeGo-dev] The future for the MeeGo OBS

[David Greaves]

I'm sorry Ryan I thought I was being polite and constructive so I'm not sure 
where the "since long before you came aboard the project" is coming from?

I also realise I've only been around MeeGo almost every single day since the day 
it launched - I'll try harder to be more passionate, more visible and part of it 
for longer next time around :D

So, back to the question: We, as members of the 'official' MeeGo IT team, are 
offering to help support some MeeGo infrastructure which is clearly not being 
maintained to anything like a professional standard.

I did copy the only known member of the TSG in on the email as well as Anas and 
Brian.

I'm sure many others in both the hacker community and the commercial community 
feel that there's a very high risk associated with relying on an apparently 
absent RE team and on a service which is now at <80% availability.

At least the MeeGo IT team are present and replying to email and irc - both in 
US and EU timezones.

David

PS I do get the impression that people think we're on some kind of power-trip 
and want to "take over" the main OBS. Well, trust me, looking after an OBS as 
well as the rest of the MeeGo.com infrastructure is a HUGE chore, *not* fun. It 
eats massively into our personal time and can be immensley frustrating. We do 
however take our responsibility seriously and as professionals and community 
members we hate to stand by and let people suffer when we could easily help out.


On 12/10/11 15:32, Ware, Ryan R wrote:
> David,
>
> The MeeGo OBS is the purview of the Release Engineering team.  It has been that way since long before you came aboard the project.  If you have concerns about that, please bring it up with the TSG.
>
> Ryan
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Greaves [mailto:david at dgreaves.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:40 AM
>> To: meego-dev at meego.com; Ware, Ryan R;
>> brian.warner at linuxfoundation.org; Sousou, Imad; Anas Nashif; meego-
>> it at meego.com
>> Subject: The future for the MeeGo OBS
>>
>> The MeeGo OBS at build.meego.com is down... again.
>>
>> The MeeGo IT team renew their offer to provide additional service level
>> support for the main OBS.
>>
>> This would allows the community to have some confidence in the continuity
>> and availability of these important services and provides the commercial
>> organisations still working on MeeGo with the same confidence.
>>
>> This means that everyone who wants to work on any aspect of MeeGo Trunk
>> is essentially blocked.
>>
>> This is not a recent issue:
>>     https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22134
>>
>> A few weeks ago the MeeGo IT team (ie the guys who run DNS,
>> www.meego.com, the mailing lists, the forum, the community OBS etc)
>> asked for permission to access the main OBS to provide support. This was
>> refused. An explanation was due to be given but some urgent issues
>> apparently prevented that. Since this was mere weeks before the shift to
>> Tizen it is possible that that was related. In any case it is time to revisit this
>> request.
>>
>> Ryan - I think you got landed with being point-man last time so I'm cc'ing you
>> directly :) Since MeeGo is a Linux Foundation project I'm cc'ing you too Brian.
>> Anas - I guess the OBS used to be your responsibility but I have no idea if it
>> still is.
>> Imad - just so you know.
>>
>> To illustrate the problem this graph shows availability of the main OBS:
>>
>> http://isobsdown.bfst.de/trends.api-obs_api.1314144000_1317921806_2011-
>> 10-06T17.23.26.png
>>
>> This shows corresponding availability of the community OBS:
>>
>> http://isobsdown.bfst.de/trends.cobs_api-
>> obs_api.1314144000_1317921806_2011-10-06T17.23.26.png
>>
>> David
>> Niels
>> (Stefano is on vacation)
>>
>> --
>> "Don't worry, you'll be fine; I saw it work in a cartoon once..."


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