[MeeGo-dev] WTF is Tizen !?!?! A takeover on MeeGo open governance!
fviard at gmail.com
Wed Sep 28 13:05:20 UTC 2011
I'm frustrated because the Linux foundation broke the promises of
MeeGo and i think that a lot of people came here because of that.
By the way, confirmation that Tizen is LiMo and that the goal was just
to kill MeeGo to avoid a strong concurrent:
"Tizen combines the best open source technologies from LiMo and The
Linux Foundation and adds a robust and flexible standards-based HTML5
and WAC web development environment within which device-independent
applications can be produced efficiently for unconstrained
Not any reference to MeeGo.
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Jeremiah Foster
<jeremiah.foster at pelagicore.com> wrote:
> Hi Florent,
> Your frustration is understandable, but somewhat misplaced. It is entirely
> okay to change the branding and governance of MeeGo, or any project. Open
> Source licenses say nothing about project governance as long as the licenses
> are respected. Much of MeeGo is under an Open Source license so it is
> completely okay to make this change to Tizen, even if it discomfits
> If you want more control over how your contributions are used, I'd recommend
> using a strong copyleft license when you contribute software, like the GPL.
> You may also want to contribute to truly open projects that have a clear
> governance model and a proven track record of transparency. A project like
> GNU, Debian, or Fedora for example might be more to your liking.
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Florent Viard <fviard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> From where come the decision of switching to tizen? MeeGo guideline
>> was supposed to be driven by open governance and meetings open to
>> everyone, what does this mean to switch like that without asking to
>> people of the community?
>> Who is the stupid guy that though that switching everything to HTML5
>> was the future? Someone coming from the wonderful failure that is the
>> google chromeOS project?
>> I don't say that adding an additional support for html5 apps in MeeGo
>> is not good. But today, you have a system that start to become usable
>> and to have its brand well known and you trash all of this in one day
>> without discussion?
>> Tell the truth, Tizen is an hostile action against MeeGo that is a
>> serious concurrent to LiMo that is currently nothing. Without Tizen,
>> Limo project would have been dead in few time as there is nothing and
>> no one is willing to use it.
>> Anyway, my MAIN CONCERN IS ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE:
>> Tizen looks like to be more a takeover against the open governance of
>> Just compare the governance of the two projects as stated in the
>> "about" pages of each one:
>> MeeGo™ is an open source project created by merging the Moblin and
>> Maemo software platforms, and is led by the MeeGo Technical Steering
>> Group (TSG). The governance model is based on meritocracy and the best
>> practices and values of the Open Source culture. The MeeGo project
>> lives under the auspices of the Linux Foundation.
>> MeeGo is open to all contributors
>> There are no admission processes, contracts, or membership fees for
>> MeeGo, just your desire to join the project and contribute.
>> TIZEN: https://www.tizen.org/community
>> Anyone can contribute by:
>> Submitting patches
>> Filing bugs
>> Developing applications
>> Helping with wiki documentation
>> Participating in other community efforts and programs
>> Membership in most project teams (Release Engineering, QA, Program
>> Management, etc.) is invite-only and will mainly be open to people at
>> companies who are building products based on Tizen. However, Community
>> Office, Localization, and some Middleware development teams will be
>> open to participation on a merit basis.
>> Compare the: "open to all contributors" to the "invite-only to companies".
>> So, If you are not working at Intel or Samsung, the only part that you
>> will be able to take in this project is to fill bugs and dev apps.
>> Question: How the linux foundation legitimate a project that is not
>> based on open governance and transparency?
>> To anyone, please show here your agreement if you share the same
>> feelings ! And don't legitimate this takeover!
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