[MeeGo-ivi] Terminal Mode

[Nasa]

----- "alistair adams" <alistair.adams at nokia.com> wrote:

> The official answer
> 
> A regular VNC server is not sufficient, as it does not support the
> extension we did to the protocol. You should be able to test the basic
> VNC operations with a regular VNC server though. The current Qt client
> requires a UPnP server as well, as it will not start the VNC
> connection before it has detected a TM enabled server device.
> 
> Nasa, what was your motivation for this? Just to try it out on your
> phone or something else?

Yeah,

I see this as a possible "Killer App" so I wanted to give it a try with
a VNC server I have loaded on my phone.  

BTW: While this app looks really cool -- has anyone said anything about 
getting support for this from the wireless companies here in the US?  Since
you have to pay extra to have tethering capabilites (if you don't root
the phone) and this seems like it requires that...  Just thinking out 
loud.

Nasa


> 
> TM only uses A2DP for audio channel in the case where RTP isn't
> supported. I think what Tom was referring to is that a HU needs to
> manage the  different incoming audio streams and that a phone could be
> using HFP via BT and sending navigation through RTP but I'm not the
> expert; you'd have to look at the specs which are on
> terminalmode.org.
> 
> -Alistair
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meego-ivi-bounces at lists.meego.com
> [mailto:meego-ivi-bounces at lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of ext Nasa
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 6:33 PM
> To: Tom Counihan
> Cc: meego-ivi at lists.meego.com
> Subject: Re: [MeeGo-ivi] Terminal Mode
> 
> Tom,
> 
> It is helpful...  Although it raises a question.  Why is
> TM handling BT protocols at all?  Since I would assume
> we aren't going to assume everyone has a supported smartphone,
> wouldn't BT HFP, HSP, and A2DP be done without TM?  Just wondering
> 
> Nasa
> ----- "Tom Counihan" <tom.counihan at intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > I think Alistair is right on this one.
> > AFAIK, TM has VNC extensions, albeit fully aligned with vnc
> extension
> > methodology.
> > This is used for;
> > - Additional Display Information Exchange
> > 	* Pixel Info/ Scaling/Framing/Clipping Behaviour
> > - Triggering popup of virtual keyboard on HU when text input
> required
> > from CE Device App.
> > - Knob Shift & Rotate Configuration capability exchange
> > - Device Status - Night mode/Key-lock/Screen Saver/etc.
> > 
> > There is more to TM than VNC however, RTP for audio in/out.
> > There are some rules regarding running TM audio, a statemachine of
> > sorts to handle cases where other audio sessions are going on with
> the
> > mobile - BT HSP, HFP & A2DP.
> > 
> > UpNP finally plays a role too in wiring the whole thing up - i.e.
> > service discovery.
> > 
> > Other interesting thing is, if you think about it, the whole use
> case
> > could be inverted - Auto Mode if you will!
> > 
> > Hope this is of some assistance.
> > 
> > Tom.
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: meego-ivi-bounces at lists.meego.com [mailto:meego-ivi-
> > > bounces at lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of Alistair Adams (Nokia-MS-
> > > Qt/SiliconValley)
> > > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 5:37 PM
> > > To: meego-ivi at lists.meego.com
> > > Subject: Re: [MeeGo-ivi] Terminal Mode
> > > 
> > > I think the answer is "no" but I'll get you a definitive answer.
> > > 
> > > On 3/11/2011 9:32 AM, ext Clark, Joel wrote:
> > > > These packages came from the terminal mode team at Nokia.  You
> > might
> > > want to send your queries to  terminalmode at nokia.com as well as
> > meego-
> > > ivi at meego.com
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > Joel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: meego-ivi-bounces at lists.meego.com [mailto:meego-ivi-
> > > bounces at lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of Nasa
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:09 AM
> > > > To: Rudolf Streif
> > > > Cc: meego-ivi at meego.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [MeeGo-ivi] Terminal Mode
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to bring this one backup...
> > > >
> > > > Looking over the documentation -- it seems that the phone
> > requires
> > > > a VNC Server to work with the terminal mode.  What I am unsure
> of
> > > > is if ANY VNC server (using RFB) would work...  Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nasa
> > > > ----- "Rudolf Streif"<rudolf.streif at linuxfoundation.org> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Nasa,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> It requires a phone with a terminal mode server. There are
> none
> > > >> currently that are commercially available. Nokia offers a
> > prototype
> > > >> kit with a phone ( http://www.nokia.com/terminalmode ). You
> will
> > > have
> > > >> to sign up for the developer program.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >> Rudi
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Nasa<  nasa01 at comcast.net> 
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Gang,
> > > >>
> > > >> I noted that terminal mode has been added to the packages. 
> Does
> > > >> anyone know how to use it?  The --help tag isn't very
> helpful... 
> > I
> > > >> have an original Droid from motorola -- which I would love to
> > give
> > > >> this a go with.
> > > >>
> > > >> Nasa
> > > >>