[meego-packaging] [meego-commits] 11098: New package Trunk:Testing/kernel-adaptation-oaktrail
shane.bryan at linux.intel.com
Tue Dec 21 09:38:57 PST 2010
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:43:42 +0200
Santakivi Topi <Topi.Santakivi at digia.com> wrote:
> On 12/21/2010 10:33 AM, Tatu Lahtela wrote:
> > On 12/21/2010 10:19 AM, ext Carsten Munk wrote:
> >> 2010/12/21 Arjan van de Ven <arjan at linux.intel.com
> >> <mailto:arjan at linux.intel.com>>
> >> On 12/20/2010 9:53 PM, Kangkai Yin wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> Adding new package kernel-adaptation-oaktrail in project
> >> Trunk:Testing. Please review and accept ASAP.
> >> Justification for this new package:
> >> The kernel for Oaktrail, fix #BMC 11588
> >> ok this is getting silly
> >> opening dummy bugs just to get past the paperwork, just so you
> >> can claim you "fixed" a bug...
> >> our bureaucrazy has gone waaaay too far.
> >> We're in a development window, not in a "code freeze strict
> >> bugfixes only" part of the schedule!
> >> Well, and we're side-stepping program management totally by having
> >> those dummy bugs. A new package should be a FEA# and approved by
> >> program management as per
> >> http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Process#Package_quality_expectations_for_submissions_into_.2A:Testing_projects
> >> Either we start enforcing it for everything or we have to modify
> >> the rules to fit reality... Proposals welcome?
> > So what was missing from this submission, the ACCEPTED stat? Without
> > snake oiling (i.e. calling/msging the prog managers) it can take
> > weeks to have it.
> What was missing was that basically nobody else but the package
> sender was informed of the upcoming package before it was actually
> sent to Trunk:Testing.
> With Feature requests, the additions are more clearly
> planned (and that process perhaps needs some kind of a speedup).
> But having that is still better than a bug-avalanche for
> inflowing packages people are submitting without asking anyone.
Which, as Arjan suggested, is EXACTLY what a community based project is
supposed to have, "inflowing packages people are submitting without
asking anyone". If/when we get there, I'd call that a measure of success.
This might not be such a problem if the community OBS would get it's
act together and start accepting SR's to Extras (or Surrounds, or *any*
non-home project). I've got a package I submitted to Extras 3 weeks
ago now yet it's still sitting there with no action and no
visibility as to what the hold up is, or how much longer it will sit
It's beginning to feel alot like the Apple AppStore submission process,
a black hole.
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